I was ready to lay into The Guardian again, as the whole Max Gogarty controversy seemed to be missing the basic point of blogging. Besides the issues of nepotism, and class, the controversy would have been much less if blogging had been explained and implemented properly, criticism had been pro-actively responded to, and it The Guardian hadn't decided to sulk and stop readers commenting.
We've had a response from the Travel Editor which concentrated on the hiring and class struggle. We've had a story detailing the 'hate mail hell' Max has gone through. And throughout it all, there seems to be a lot of surprise about the responses to the blog, both on The Guardian, and throughout the internet.
Thailand pic by Flydime on Flickr.
It went viral because someone decided to close comments. For the same reason that someone banned from their local pub will probably go straight to their next nearest drinking hole, and sit their complaining about the ban. If you want to discuss something strongly, and a website won't let you, you go elsewhere.
It got complaints because it wasn't honest and open. Disclosure isn't an unfamiliar concept to journalists or bloggers, so I'm still amazed it proves so difficult for corporate or company-approved bloggers to understand that hiding things are pointless. You should be honest,
to the point of stating why you can't discuss certain topics on here. I wouldn't blog about someone I didn't like at work, for example, or a top secret project, because they'd be biased, or damaging to that project.
It got complaints because the only response was to close the comments. In later stories, you saw responses from someone claiming to be Max's dad, Paul Gogarty, and also Emily Bell. And even though there was still blame on the 'nasty bullies', and a time limit on comments, you can already see that the nature of the comments changes slightly when there is actually someone listening and responding.
But, it seems like there is some valuable learning. Emily Bell, The Guardian's Director of Digital Content, wrote a piece on the value of discourse yesterday, which did acknowledge the value of participation.
There is one line that worries me when she writes about 'representative insitutions' and mass participation : "we can shepherd refinement into this new partnership".
Why would we want or need refinement? Do we want shepherds herding us around like sheep? Or do we just want to feel like our comments matter?
Wednesday, February 20, 2008
Max Gogarty and The Guardian - From mistake, to farce, to learning
Posted by David Kohl at 10:28 AM
Labels: blog, comments, disaster, emily bell, max gogarty, outcry, paul gogarty, the guardian, uproar
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2 comments:
Hmmm I've followed the debacle. Several excellent points are made here.
Anyone who publishes should be aware of the forces that, at any time, risk being unleashed, without even taking the internet dimension into account.
The Grauniad seems to be waking up to this a little late.
Hi Aurore,
Thanks for the comment. I don't think the Guardian as a whole is unaware, and I think you'd find many people within the organisation as frustrated by those outside by what happened.
I'm just amazed at the responses, particularly the fact that of the three articles, comments were stopped on one, comments were stopped after a certain time on another, and then you can't comment on the Director of Digital Content's summation.
Things will always happen and mistakes will always be made when you're dealing with individuals interacting with you on an almost real time basis. The important thing is how you respond to them...
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